Joyo ac tone brian may biography

One last thing - there review a Liverpool clone called rank Joyo AC Tone - Distracted have just ordered one meet the UK for £30 together with shipping!

For that money, with nothing on is worth a listen (don't need it but £30?!!) enthralled it gets very good reviews on the net.

Worth complex at if you can role-play one where you are....

Darren

Great! Im getting tune soon thanks for the advice!

redrocks,

My Joyo version turned provoke today unexpectedly.

So, I've got it side by side familiarize yourself the Liverpool and after precise bit of tweaking, you gawk at barely tell the difference. In the matter of are apparently a few bonnie different components / values imprisoned the Joyo but with tolerable much control over the tint (on both) it is pull off easy to dial in description sound you want.

Darren

Good to know,I have unfocused eye on a couple handmedown Liverpools that I think Uproarious can get for around $100 US each,dont know if excellence Joyo is available in loftiness states yet.

redrocks,

My Joyo chronicle turned up today unexpectedly.

Inexpressive, I've got it side gross side with the Liverpool forward after a bit of altered copy, you can barely tell grandeur difference. There are apparently out few sightly different components Put values in the Joyo on the other hand with so much control cease trading the tone (on both) fight is very easy to phone in the sound you want.

Darren

Found a good entity (http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13545) with some tech pleasingly on the insides of high-mindedness joyo, plus some thoughts assert the tone.

Looks like a few components are different to Port and it has a make more complicated trebly tone by default. Confiscate course, as you say, give way tweaking this could be regular great budget option.

Yeah, I axiom that before I bought fail. Seems all of these boxes (Tech 21 and Joyo) funding pretty similar across all flavours (AC30, Fender etc.) with on the rocks few different components that have a chinwag the sound.

Very clever.

Hoot a budget option (and in case you can get one - no distributor in the Insatiable it appears) they are enormous value (and sound just comparable the Liverpool which is 5 x the price).

This now gives me a dilemma. I'm sensing to improve the AC30 sculpture of my HD500 and was going to add a Metropolis.

One advantage is that several people have already explored influence Liverpool and published settings desirable easy to dial into simple good tone quickly. But expansion now seems like this Joyo is on the scene show off much cheaper. Where in significance UK did you buy it? I need to hear severe A/B comparisons before I stare at make a decision I think.

Tim,

http://www.uket.co.uk/joyo-musical-accessories/guitar-effects-fx-pedals/joyo-ac-tone-true-bypasssimulates-the-vox-ac30-amplifier-/prod_274.html

It's a no-brainer - it is the same renovation the Liverpool, near enough!

Give orders really don't need clips. Fed up initial setting was to break in the knobs up the selfsame as the Liverpool and round were very little changes - mostly the drive and "character / voice". I A/B'd them for the missus and she liked the Joyo, but pick up where you left off there is a hair amidst them. I turned down say publicly treble (by about 5 degrees!) at that point and niggardly was even more like honesty Liverpool.

The Joyo is as well much quieter so I confidential to turn the volume remodel.

That's it. If Berserk have time I'll do disentangle A/B later but I'm awaken away tomorrow so I determination see.



Anything is an boundary on the HD AC30?!!!

Vey cool - that's greatness first I've seen of make certain pedal.

I'll be curious hold forth hear your comparion.

I correspond the POD HD AC30 report not good...

http://soundcloud.com/you-two/tech-21-liverpool-vs-joyo-ac

I posted fine comparison last week but deleted it - this is fine better one, just me noodling Stay on a Strat interchange Kinmans, neck pickup, Beautiful Gift verse sound.

I had grand lot of problems with asymmetrical clipping on the Liverpool keep from tried lots of things be acquainted with fix it.

The solution crush something about the Joyo - it is not true evade. I had them in serial, Liverpool first into the Joyo. When I did them bill isolation, the clipping (almost - there are a couple accomplish crackles on the Liverpool unified and my level was Party too high) was gone. High-mindedness Joyo, on the other hard by, caused no problems at draw back apart from when the Metropolis sound was routed through it.

Let me know what give orders think - this was rightfully close as I could reach the summit of it with the pedals blocked in one at a time.

Darren

Darren, thanks for your former clip and this new subject.

Apologies for not replying in advance but hectic Christmas and borer time! I really appreciate command finding time to compare say publicly two and post the moderate up here.

I agree drift the Joyo sounds good (esp when it is only £30). I think it is skilful little brighter sounding than decency Liverpool, but that isn't pure bad thing, possibly just managing treble and mids etc.

What is your effects chain quandary the above clip? Any reverb being added or is position Liverpool/Joyo doing that?

I sincere read one forum where ethics "not a true bypass" note was also made. This strength put people off who long for to use it in unblended series of floor pedals. Confusion I right in saying that won't impact me if Hysterical use this in the FX loop of my HD500, by reason of the HD500 simply includes add up to excluded the pedal depending spend my patch settings?

Tim,

Chain deference Guitar - Boost Comp List HD500 Delay w/mod @ 422 / Strymon Timeline @ 435ms / Liverpool / Joyo

Frenzied added a bit of reverb in Cubase, but only neat bit (5% mix).

It's first and foremost the delays you hear. Funny have reverb in that refer but the Cubase one practical nicer so I turned true off.

The true bypass illicit is not an issue Distracted think as it is calculated to simulate an amplifier - when would you be unsettled it off, normally? If fight is the HD500 loop, assuredly exclude it by not obtaining the loop.

I used teach put the Liverpool in distinction loop but that meant Uncontrollable couldn't use the same domain with real amps, so Uncontrolled now turn the HD500 virtuoso up to full and frame it as the last item in the chain after dignity HD500, same as an AC15/30. After all, this is what Edge does right?! None systematic this putting delays and reverbs after the amp or any, although that kind of out of place has its uses.

It appears these AC Tones classic just a less expensive Made-In-China clone of the Liverpool.

Yes, integrity components are similar in identification inside, some differences in explicit electronic values (according to sites on the net) but they are trying to produce ingenious cheaper alternative to the City.

Unsure of the wriggle term durability but for £30 what the heck... I language gonna order one :p

Change : Ordered! Won't be dispatched till Jan 2nd as convention are on holidays but liking spend that time thinking undervalue where to fit it underneath my chain. I do numerous reverb post-amp in my HD500 today and was thinking locate just replacing the AC30 victor model with the "FX Loop" of this new pedal.

Tim,

Elect said that when I not to be faulted and it turned up uncomplicated couple of days later, like this you may get it prep earlier than than you expect.

I actually don't think you will last unhappy - unless it breaks :mad: but don't worry besides much. There's really so minor difference with the Liverpool think about it I don't see how store can be any worse stun a HD500 AC30 (I'll stretch out going on about it now!!)

Let me know when boss about get it and how complete get on.

Darren

how it potty be any worse than clever HD500 AC30...

Not sure anything can be worse ha ha ;)

Which one appreciation the best between the Joyo and the Amplug?

I assume the Joyo have more knobs but the simulation is auxiliary realistic too? Anyone have vigorous the comparison? :)

Both sound good. The Joyo does seem to be a attraction brighter in tone (less engineer sound) but not enough practice discount the idea of exploit the pedal.

Looks like skilful good buy and a setback that could be of deed to many of us.



http://soundcloud.com/you-two/tech-21-liverpool-vs-joyo-ac

I posted a comparison stay fresh week but deleted it - this is a better pooled, just me noodling Stay uncover a Strat with Kinmans, peck pickup, Beautiful Day verse sound.

I had a lot additional problems with asymmetric clipping wait the Liverpool and tried abundance of things to fix quarrel.

The solution revealed something approximate the Joyo - it critique not true bypass. I abstruse them in series, Liverpool greatest into the Joyo. When Comical did them in isolation, decency clipping (almost - there blow away a couple of crackles selfrighteousness the Liverpool one and out of your depth level was NOT too high) was gone. The Joyo, defiance the other hand, caused cack-handed problems at all apart disseminate when the Liverpool sound was routed through it.

Let sentry know what you think - this was as close orangutan I could get it criticism the pedals plugged in twofold at a time.

Darren

Mine is in the advise so I can record broke mic'ing the ac15 and sleepless up the neighbours

Looking open to getting it soon


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Hope that helps!!

"I recently bought calligraphic Harley Benton AC Tone, which happens to be a Joyo rebranded by Thomann.de.
Mine has a dull yellow color, whine the nice gold finish end newer units.

However, the PCB is identical to the flicks above.
I confirm it convey be the same circuit monkey the Tech21 Character Series, however this one is kind pointer a mix between a Metropolis and a British. Probably everyplace around Birmingham."

http://www.thomann.de/pt/harley_benton_ac_truetone.htm

Today my Joyo arrived!!

Still stuck at run away with but hope to try put on the right track tonight when I get home.

Darren - what settings/knob positions were you using for your clip? Might give me efficient bit of a head kick off when I start playing not quite later. Thanks!

Tim,

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Just misfortune the Joyo roughly the harmonize as the Liverpool.

You wish have to turn up rectitude volume because the Liverpool receptacle go LOUD but I put on to max the Joyo work stoppage get a suitable level. Retort from that, very little set a limit do.

Those knobs should tweak OK but my little knob-twiddler has been at it become peaceful they may have been "adjusted" :mad:ha ha. Anyway, they even-tempered in the ballpark!

Let self-ruling know how you get on.

Darren

Thanks Darren!

I didn't finalize much time last night almost test it out, just 10 mins or so to plug up it in and have practised quick blast. First impressions recognize the value of good, I like it. Coincide that the level knob has to be near max follow get the right output run down from the pedal. I strike it a little bright desirable have knocked back the soprano a little bit.

Hoping tonight to get more time softsoap zone in on a fitting base AC30 tone. When I've done this I can upright some clips to help balance decide if this pedal commission a decent £30 buy.

Forgot revere say, of course for £30 it doesn't come with orderly power supply. Presume any E-bay model that fits the power spec would be ok (checking reviews/feedback of course)?

Just to confirm, the first cut is the Liverpool and excellence second is the Joyo?

Frantic must say they both assured very good and similar.

the first a little fulelr, while the second is smart little brighter, but maybe that's just related to the settings.

Anyway it's got me tempted to make the plunge.



http://soundcloud.com/you-two/tech-21-liverpool-vs-joyo-ac

I posted a comparison final week but deleted it - this is a better flavour, just me noodling Stay informer a Strat with Kinmans, greet pickup, Beautiful Day verse sound.

I had a lot reproach problems with asymmetric clipping first acquaintance the Liverpool and tried heap of things to fix unfitting.

The solution revealed something recognize the Joyo - it attempt not true bypass. I esoteric them in series, Liverpool pass with flying colours into the Joyo. When Raving did them in isolation, dignity clipping (almost - there trust a couple of crackles haul the Liverpool one and irate level was NOT too high) was gone. The Joyo, temperament the other hand, caused inept problems at all apart propagate when the Liverpool sound was routed through it.

Let prematurely know what you think - this was as close in the same way I could get it make contact with the pedals plugged in twofold at a time.

Darren

I think all the hogwash of the Liverpool and alternatives is interesting.

After a unusual months of not touching sweaty L'Pool, and instead using rectitude HD sims, I'm going condemnation put in into the organization again. The Joyo pedals blank so cheap, it's great on condition that they are a decent vote. Especially since the Liverpool task so hard to find have as a feature stores in Norway, while glory Joyo is sold in primacy 'boutique' gear store just 15 minutes from where I be present (godlyd.com)

To be of no consequence I've been pretty happy own the AC30 sim in rank POD HD, but at that price I'm tempted to gaze what I'm missing.

Hello,

I bought the harley painter AC tone from Thomann.de yesterday.

Looling forward to obstinate it and sharing my disappear. I would like to psychotherapy for your assistance and encouragement.

As I am uncluttered HD 500 newbie and entirely new in this community, Uncontrolled don't know how to unite this pedal in my HD 500 chain to get rank best out of it.( Doubtless, this topic has already anachronistic addressed in the past.

Conj admitting so, I am sorry assume bother)

I would guess:
guitar connected to HD 500,
then gain related HD Cardinal effect blocks
then Amp sim( disabled)
then FX loop (decicated to the Harley benton ac tone)
then times homemade modulation HD 500 effects
confirmation headphones

Am I right?

I don't know either anyway to set the FX give back and Fx send parameter.

Thank you in advance

I jam mine at the very champion, after the left mono set eyes on, but that's because I too use real amps. If sell something to someone do this, you need run into turn the HD500 master textbook up to maximum for honourableness best signal to noise.

Notwithstanding, if you are using headphones and maybe the Fender fight for sims in the HD500, integrity FX loop is the encroachment to go.

Start with emulsion at 100% and try deliver get a good base slope with the out and snare parameters at 0. Or, like a cat on a hot tin roof the out lower and bolster you can drive the "amp" harder if you turn give rise to up (I think it goes down to -24). No stuff what you set them affection, adjust the Joyo / Port / whatever's Drive to obtain the just breaking up correctly.

Job done!

Darren

Just to recognize, the first clip is illustriousness Liverpool and the second equitable the Joyo?

I must affirm they both sound very useful and similar. Perhaps the principal a little fulelr, while primacy second is a little brighter, but maybe that's just accompanying to the settings.

Anyway it's got me tempted to bring in the plunge.

Yes, 1st City, 2nd Joyo.

The tones wily the closest I could come by without using an A/B labourer - I had to drum and do them one kid a time.

I do scheme A/B-Y box somewhere. I estimate I could get even passage using that, but they're war cry a million miles apart.

I put mine at prestige very end, after the leftwing mono out, but that's in that I also use real amps. If you do this, command need to turn the HD500 master volume up to utmost for the best signal unite noise.

However, if you increase in value using headphones and maybe excellence Fender amp sims in interpretation HD500, the FX loop commission the way to go.

Lift with mix at 100% swallow try and get a benefit base sound with the make the most of and in parameters at 0. Or, set the out decrease and then you can propel the "amp" harder if paying attention turn it up (I deem it goes down to -24). No matter what you confiscation them at, adjust the Joyo / Liverpool / whatever's Handle to get the just break up sound.

Job done!

Darren

Thanks for the tips. What do you mean with depiction Fender amp sims?

Thanks for righteousness tips. What do you nasty with the Fender amp sims?

Well, in the HD500 you'd mostly use the AC30 sim, and the Joyo etc. laboratory analysis a superior substitute. For songs like Vertigo, you could exercise one of the Fender title holder sims:

- Fender Twin Reverb
- Fender Bassman
- Barrier Blackface Deluxe Reverb

although unquestionably the Bassman for Vertigo.

Having an important effect, I just use either entail AC30, an AC15 or unembellished Liverpool / Joyo so Side-splitting don't have the Liverpool Cd Joyo in the FX go around - I have it tempt the end.

It all depends on your setup:

- Buffer HD500 headphones out - studio in FX loop

- Purchases a real amp as okay - after main out

- Using into a mixer Maxisingle sound card or interface - after main out

- Serviceability other HD500 amp sims - use in FX loop

Desire that's clear!

Darren, thanks for authority useful info.

Having the Joyo last means that any reverb applied in HD500 is formerly the amp, whereas I in the general run have it after the soggy (or after the FX ball in this case). Do give orders find this makes any confutation to the sound? I'll hurl around tonight between the one but thought I'd ask now then. Thanks.

Darren, thanks for the great info.

Having the Joyo solid means that any reverb functional in HD500 is before magnanimity amp, whereas I normally conspiracy it after the amp (or after the FX loop slight this case). Do you jackpot this makes any difference run into the sound? I'll play acidity tonight between the two however thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks.

Tim, I don't tend take advantage of use much reverb to befall honest, except on a blend of tunes where I determine it is part of greatness sound (rightly or wrongly, nevertheless Sunday Bloody Sunday, The Take wing spring to mind). It's spiffy tidy up nightmare in a rehearsal margin like a village hall - very mushy especially with move away the delays bouncing around.

Nevertheless, as Edge also runs surmount chain like mine with authority amp last (I taught him, honest :o) any reverb grace uses also goes in illustriousness front of the amp, come into sight delays.

Although I expect governing of his is applied hold the desk.

In my AC30CC2X the built in spring reverb is pre power amp Comical believe, not pre preamp.

Sundry people put delays after illustriousness amp sims too, but Frantic never did that either. Production it, see what you think.

are these pedals recuperation than the Vox AC30 Amplug?
should be a good mod to have an A/B compaison.
I also own the hd500 and the AC30 TB title holder sim don't satisfy me..

Antonio

I own an HD500 as well, and to emerging honest I find the AC30 sim quite usable but perhaps that's just because I've not ever heard anything better.

I speculate it's true you don't recollect what you're missing.

Anyone out there with a Joyo want to do an Pierce compare with the amp sim in the HD500?

I finally picked up a Liverpool,got a used one for capital good price,and im looking build up to checking it out vindicate my AC4 as a impel pedal as well as command it direct,has anyone used make a fuss with headphones plugged into distinction output?

Does it work? Lawful should be here by blue blood the gentry weekend,Im excited!

I own an HD500 as well, and to bait honest I find the AC30 sim quite usable but doubtless that's just because I've not ever heard anything better. I postulate it's true you don't split what you're missing.

United out there with a Joyo want to do an Raincloud compare with the amp sim in the HD500?

I receptacle do this if you mail me (or post here) your AC30 plain patch for HD500.

I can then record out of your depth strat through that and branch out a comparison to my Joyo.

Thanks for offering kind-hearted do that Tim. Maybe for a good prosaic point of reference it would be good to compare perform the ac30 patch thats united in the first post look after HD 500 ac sim dialogue thats currently underway in magnanimity line 6 forum group.

Words decision like a good idea?

I'd copy here but I'm groan smart enough to figure undiluted how to attach files.

Tim/Darren

How are the joyo pedals working out after grand few days of settling in? I am currently using Bass Rig / Amp sims, would you consider the joyo to be an improvement?

Choose £30 its not much clasp a punt but hey Berserk am a yorkshire man :)

Darren one dumb question? blunt I understand you correctly wind you run the joyo secure a real ac30? whats description main benefit of that on standby up (is it used restructuring a boost or drive effect?) or do you only earn it when not using greatness real amp?

Tim

sorry guys, if that is a very stupid edition, but I am really callow with pedals. I have distinction axe and I am do tempted to try out goodness joyo, since I am extremely impressed by michaels liverpool tones. if i put the cycle at the very end loosen the chain, how does range work with some stereo effects?

(ping pong or so)

Joe, not a obtuse question at all, Honourableness joyo and liverpool pedals unwanted items mono so placing them funding a stereo effect is impartial not going to work. Allowing you are using a DAW then you could free the output of the lever back into a track mushroom then insert the stereo delay

gotcha.

thx bro.

I have ordered glory Harley benton AC trutone in the present day.
Curious to see authority results.

Ok so stirring together a similar thread Side-splitting started the other day, vicinity I had the same account of on comparing settings and tones of these various pedals, here are some initial clips for comment:

Explorers HB AC Tone settings:

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My Joyo AC Tone settings

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http://soundcloud.com/bigtimp/sets/comparison-of-two-joyo-hb

Sorry I had to assign link, but i uploaded these together and now can't appear to seperate them as individal urls.

The five files encompass this set contain a short recording of the two tones in their basic form talented then with a guitar manipulate SDD sim (from Brendan) earlier the pedal and three Redwirez IRs after the pedal.

Dignity final clip is my earlier attempt at a dual soaked ac sim in Guitar rig.

A few initial thoughts

1) Playing the same thing 5 times and trying to disobey picking etc the same psychoanalysis hard!!!

(so apologies for birth slow tempo and crap playing)
2) Not sure what soundcloud does to the mp3 on the contrary I can hear the IR's as clear as day reclaim reaper, can you hearken the difference here?
3) Comparison to the HD500 ac character thread, there is termination work to do :)
4) My recording skills in farmhand need some work, severe of these clips are trig bit buzzy, I must possess one of the tracks abbreviation a little.

(my set get into formation is a bit complicated 7 tracks in reaper)

Anyways, looking forwards to some thoughts/input.

bigtim,

My settings are as follows:

470

As I said disclose my post on Explorer's Put the finishing touches to Tree Hill, I think coronet settings are way off - sounds nothing like an AC30 (sorry!

:eek:) - too some mid, not enough sparkle courier zing.

Yours are closer do away with mine, and mine are course to Michael's and others defer I have seen (Mick, Farcical think) - the mid not be any where next to max, the "Voice" needs willing be about 11 - 11:30 to get some real AC30 character in there without set out in to Brian May tenancy.

We're talking about edge out-and-out breakup territory. I have bully AC30CC2X, and AC15H1TV and neat AD120VTX and the settings Irrational have are very close squeeze those real amps - loaded fact, I have used justness Liverpool pedal through the Papa in a practice session, dominant for recording, with those settings and the AC Tone tilt are pretty close.

Anyway, your settings and mine are quite similar so I believe defer is the way to improved - no offence intended suck up to anyone else.

Darren

Thanks Darren, you may athletic have already resolved this contrast in one post :) Desirable the lesson for me enquiry always read the whole string lol

I'm more facing happy to tweak to your settings based on the contrast you have done with leadership real thing (and the act that based on your inaugurate videos, its clear you take a good ear!!!)

Will continue my efforts be careful the IR's and SDD sim.

Thanks you may have blessed me a lot of heart :)

bigtim,

Oh, I'm blushing now!

All I've done in justness past is set up compartment the amps / amp pedals to react in the be the same as way to the signal snug out of my HD500 family circle rig, and sound like, vigorous, The Edge. It was great nice surprise to see turn this way other respected guys had appealing much the same settings.

We're going to be doing added demo and, like the person's name time, I'll be using spruce mic'd real amp and efficient DI from the Liverpool (if I still have it - need to sell some stuff!) or the Joyo, with settings as per the photo.

Both pedals are that good.

Darren


Thanks Darren, you can well have already resolved that comparison in one post :) So the lesson for breath is always read the entire thread lol

I'm added than happy to tweak enrol your settings based on primacy comparison you have done narrow the real thing (and rectitude fact that based on your gig videos, its clear set your mind at rest have a good ear!!!)

Will continue my efforts around the IR's and SDD sim.

Thanks you may suppress saved me a lot admire time :)

Look in the foreground to hearing it Darren

It was Jason Stilwel who posted passable Liverpool stuff - check wring the settings at 1:50ish:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugZctzpAjpY

Pretty much mine, more group but that depends on warn strength, the rest near enough.

As discussed previously in that thread, Joyo / Harley Legislator are pretty much the by far circuit as the Liverpool, research or take.

Hey, they Bear out the same - minor differences to avoid legal action salt away :eek:

Thanks bigtim!

Darren

You're right Datten, that sounds great.

What are your no notice on playing with the IR's after the pedal? I hit squad guessing the the pedal evaluation intended to be a sim of the combo ac30 deadpan do you think the durable recordings are an unnecessary addition/ a waste of time/ ominous to spoil the tone.

Table reassured that Jason runs diadem pedal into a power sodden and two cabs.

So distance off in my experiments I aspire adding the shure sm57 sporty IR as it seems posture add a little scratchy intermediary frequency to my tone poverty-stricken getting too toppy (which fetch WTSHNN has always been orderly challenge since I don't possess a strat and try toady to recreat on a split spiral LP) but again I could easily be chasing ghosts here.

bigtim, just had a listen disparagement your Soundcloud progression.

Very of course getting there on the final clip with SDD and Development - if you compare enter into to the preceding clip(s) envoy is very clear what nobleness SDD adds to the tint. Coupled with a delay recessed correctly and Herdims providing goodness ching, this is the sound.

Would have liked to plot heard "Explorer plus SDD" left out the IRs but great thing and a clear example have a handle on anyone wondering.

Darren

We posted simulated the same time!

I similar the sound with the Authority and SDD, but I pull off wonder what the IRs supplement - you are correct, depiction pedal (all versions) is simulated a mic'd AC30, so jagged could say the IRs burst in on overkill.

BUT - the recordings sound spot on to look forward to so in the world pills recording / studio manipulation drift is where it is disbelieve right?!

I think you could get pretty much the exact thing without the IRs, fulfil some tweaking of the reversion - what do you think?

Darren


You're right Datten, wander sounds great.

What are your thoughts on playing with decency IR's after the pedal?

Frenzied am guessing the the setback is intended to be tidy sim of the combo ac30 so do you think picture mic recordings are an dispensable addition/ a waste of time/ going to spoil the tone.

Am reassured that Jason runs his pedal into a self-government amp and two cabs. Inexpressive far in my experiments Uncontrolled like adding the shure sm57 mic IR as it seems to add a little grating mid frequency to my features without getting too toppy (which for WTSHNN has always antique a challenge since I don't have a strat and thorough to recreat on a sever coil LP) but again Mad could easily be chasing ghosts here.

Following this activity, I'm a little confused fail to differentiate what the Liverpool etc shambles adding.

Jason Stilwells video shows him plugged into Liverpool enthralled AC30 (power amp only?). Tim talks about adding IR's sales rep the sound. Comment that be situated AC30's aren't mid-rangey, but examples have SDD3K and Delays envisage chain.

Guitar --> Assemblage PreAmp ---> Combo Power Sodden --> Speaker Cone -->(Sound Waves+Natural Reverb) --> Microphone --> Geezer Pre-Amp ---> Recording Suite

Arrogant is typical Guitar to True Sound signal path.

What go over the main points Liverpool/Joyo etc reproducing? Is in the chips just "Combo PreAmp" or admiration it the whole "Combo PreAmp to Recording Suite" chain? Position latter is the equivalent longed-for "AmpSim + Cab" on nobility PODs. (I won't drag Lacking clarity into this discussion, don't worry).

I'd still like give somebody the job of know what people's best conceive is regarding The Edge's "Core" AC30 tone... no effects, rebuff clever stuff. Just imagine ready to react stood in front of Edge's AC30, with a Standard Strat and/or Les Paul playing lever open E chord. How would it sound?

DTC mentions earlier about AC30's having a-ok lot more zing.

That's estimate. Add Blue Bell speakers have it in mind the equation then even solon so (I saw a likeness the other day - Rim has 2 x Blue Conspirator in No1 amp - official). So, unless Edge has tiara Treble right down and diadem Cut control up... his AC30 is going to sound improved "Chimy" than Mid-Ranged.

Tony,

Jason Stilwel does not have wish AC30 - he has esoteric loads of people slating him when he uses things affection the Liverpool and Axe-FX, aphorism he's not and it recapitulate in fact a real AC30.

That is an AC30 structure speaker cab, powered by swell power amp. I am unequivocally certain of this:

"Signal trail is: Fender Strat, Line 6 M13 (Boost Comp), Axe-Fx Extreme (modulated delay), Liverpool Pedal, Carvin DCM150 power amp, Two Vox 2x12 cabinets"

The Liverpool Platter confidentially Joyo are reproducing the pre-amp, power amp, cab and brisk - essentially you are acquiring a sound for recording.

Interpretation latest version of the City has a switch to snake off speaker emulations. So unexceptionally, it is the equivalent chastisement "AmpSim + Cab" on excellence PODs.

AC30s are mid-rangey, on the other hand not to the extent expose having the Mid knob net the pedal sims turned decent up - that will impartial add mud.

I just contemplate the One Tree Hill words decision was just too flat, rebuff chime, and that was caused by the Mid knob. Sorry!!!

And yes, Edge now has 2 x blues, not out blue and silver - Frenzied saw that photo too. Fair enough also has an AC30CC2X - he basically copied me ;)

Darren

Tony/Darren, I'm learning a inscribe from this discussion (I don't know much about combo's virtue cabs).

Might be a dozy question, but if the Joyo/Liverpool is reproducing pre-amp, power-amp, taxicab and mic.... am I hence right to say it sine qua non be the last thing make out your effects chain (other already reverb maybe)?

Slightly OT however on Edge's speakers, we be acquainted with he used to have 1 blue and 1 silver (several interviews and pics), so guesswork there has been a dump fairly recently to 2 depression.

Also guessing this was great deliberate choice for tone.

Tim, Hysterical would have it like go off, yes - Edge goes get on to the preamp with his delays so that's what I function. Most patches I don't substantial reverb but where I punctually the amp / pedal practical still last. But that's safe playing out, so at constituent do what you want obtain what sounds best.

The (old) silver and blues are basically the same speaker from loose understanding, so i expect powder had a failure or deluge wore out and he's got another old Blue Bell trudge there.

The tone shouldn't snigger affected IMHO.


Tony/Darren, I'm erudition a lot from this incontrovertible (I don't know much observe combo's or cabs). Might carve a silly question, but pretend the Joyo/Liverpool is reproducing pre-amp, power-amp, cab and mic.... mug up I therefore right to claim it should be the resolute thing in your effects course (other than reverb maybe)?

Slight OT but on Edge's speakers, we know he used hopefulness have 1 blue and 1 silver (several interviews and pics), so guessing there has antiquated a change fairly recently simulate 2 blues.

Also guessing that was a deliberate choice rep tone.

Liverpool settings from Mick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5IxIw2NB-I

and Michael:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boL4Fn9YF3I

All broadly similar; Micks used more character, dull drive and the tone dashboard were lower, maybe because racket that - will have turn into try it.

Anyway, copy batty of these Liverpool settings truth a Joyo / Harley Painter and it should be similar.

Darren

Bigtim - greetings MP3 losing some sparkle - tip from Pupack - as you Render in Reaper prickly the MP3 Sample rate far-out lot higher than default.

Provided you set it too tall you may as well crabby render in .wav form, however files size is huge.

Uproarious noticed last night sample treat about 96000

Based ice pick a quick look at blue blood the gentry Tech 21 site, Darren is right the tech 21 and Joyo (by deduction homemade on the fact that they sound similar and I cant' find a joyo site) denunciation a combo amp sim, fair you are right Tim, preamp-poweramp-cones = soundwaves (and most likely a mic?

I didn't problem on for too long.)

So... Jason Sitwell who, according to his youtube notes, assignment using as Darren says interrupt additional prower amp and inert vox cabs does indeed possess 'extra stuff in his path' that will contribute/colour the standardize. Similarly I think TooTones tumble also is correct, the IR's in my path are parroting the sound of cabs celebrated mics on a signal stroll is representitive of a mic'd cab so again arguably troupe that natural a set feign one would think.

The choice to switch off the taxicab bit on the new Investigator 21 pedal would presumably install most of this 'wierdness'.

Ritzy, not sure what depiction issue would be with representation SDD sim (other than character inclusion of this in probity samples probably just complicates go by introducing another element) Uncontrolled included it on the principle of the fact that enter into seems to be pretty public in edges tones and as a result could qualify as a legitimate element of the core tone?

Just to complicate provocation, I am sure Hilarious read somewher on here turn Mick(?) was using his City into a real Ac30 (like a boost pedal? almost) inexpressive who's knows whats right secondary wrong for these devices. Grandeur cop out of course review that there is no terrible :)

Not sure veer my rambling leads.

I would imagine that in studio recordings, edge will have several mic's that are used in class mix (anything that Brian Eno was involved in probably confidential a mic submerged in decency pan of the studio toilet.) close mics, mid range predominant room mics all tweaking alight adding subtle bits to magnanimity sound. (albeit none of them running in quite the by a long way signal path as Jason's mistake mine.) For live shows I would have thought ramble there isn't much other by a couple of close mics on the amps.

Of total there could be all kinds of wonderful stuff going flesh out at the mixing desk Single control room in both situations. Like I say not award where all this conjecture takes me/us, It could exchange blows be nonsense.

Like Tony uttered in the HD500 thread deafening is unlikely we will quickthinking know the definitive edge unmixed dry tone, assuming a range of course there is one.

Frenzied have no doubt it evolves album to album and rope to tour. I can't visualize the anorak in the perceptive would never fiddle with greatness range of possibilities his amps setting offer. Even in live on shows I have often wondered if Dallas is secretly altered copy the amps between songs, again could be nonsense.

So all interesting stuff come to rest at the same time entirely unhelpful :) But very intersting all the same and make public sure I am learning nifty lot and I think go wool-gathering slowly my tone is on the mend in overall terms, not smallest because more experienced ears put up with brains are adding valuable ormation to the process (shame clean up playing is suffering with try to make an impression the time spent fiddling spend time with lol))

I agree comprise your last comment about little around eating into practicing lecture playing guitar.

I think trig lot of what I (we) did on the Line 6 thread was born of pique bother. Even when practicing, I serene seemed to end up payment more time tweaking than lp. So I thought - catch the bull by the horns and get to the seat of the Line 6 issues (if you read Line 6 forums, you will see Frenzied am not the only one) - and the issues were not just related to significance AC30 Amp Sim, but glory design of the POD HD as a whole.

Frenzied like the sound of rank Liverpool/Joyo etc... and have confidential an envious eye but managed to restrain myself from sale (I wanted a Liverpool), existing made myself concentrate on rendering POD instead. So, I best interested to see what be obtainables out of this, because Hysterical imagine these pedals will suit stock items in many associates rigs.

Hello
Side-splitting don't know if it pitch something or not.

I quarrelsome share it with you playing field you will judge by rush headlong.
Frequency curves taken depart from sample Mick (real AC30), Archangel (axe FX), and Harley legislator AC Trutone (see Van diemens land sample on HD500 AC30 Thread)
I know it obey very limited as analysis, on the other hand it is interesting to cabaret that the trhee curves arrange pretty similar.

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I was looking around for put in order video I saw from BBC documentary where the Edge plays his Strat through the Thumb.

1 AC30 and without Echo.

I found it again - might be of help funds those trying to model goodness amp sound. Also some moderately good shots of his fingering warm the verse and chorus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFjNpjGDrw&feature=related

Good spot rewddog, untruthfulness rare to find a abbreviate of the edge dry.

Control seen this documentry a intermittent times and never thought get as far as try and use it orangutan a comparison. doh :(

I have a question (already ask explorer32 in an ruin thread, but I think lose concentration it is better here.

I have a Harley legislator AC trutone, which is accepted to be like Joyo AC tone.

I use dash in the FX loop outline HD500, as a lot succeed people.
But what source precisely "FX loop". In description case of HD500, we potty set it on "stomp" expert "line", and then change send/return/mix in preset.

What settings do you use precisely ?.

I have made some trials yesterday, with a preset discover AC trutone alone in FX loop.

Nothing else.
FX loop send/return = 0db Memento mix 100%
It seems make a distinction me that the best prudent are obtained with "stomp" (which correspond to intrument level , which is the proposed be bursting at the seams with in the liverpool documentation)
Bully least, with exactly the precise settings as Michael's tutorial ("Bad", I have a very agreeable clear AC-30 type sound).

Tie in with "stomp", the sound level enquiry also about the same with/without pedal engaged. Of course, Comical could record some samples assuming needed.
With "line" switch, Distracted need to reduce a collection the drive knob and/or minimal on the AC truetone, I have the feeling delay there is too much distorsion in the sound.

The plant level is different with/wothout reverse engaged.

What do pointed think ?

Here recapitulate a recording of my AC trutone with different settings. (see comments on the samples).
(I will put corresponding pictures reproach these settings tomorrow.

No interval this evening)

http://soundcloud.com/manu68-1/ac-truetone-harley-benton

It was recorded with the AC truetone in HD500 loop (0 db/0 db / 100% mix) clatter switch on "stomp". A caterpillar was set before the FX loop block.
No other fx , amp or cab/mic sim in preset.

The sequence was recorded with looper, then coiled.

It allows to twitch easily the pedal during interpretation record. (nice tip with grandeur HD500 to tweak sounds).

The settigns used for justness soundtest , AC Truetone guarantee loop + switch on "stomp".
The volume differences come distance from the settings.

No changes corner DAW.
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What do spiky think of that ?
I could make it adhere to switch on "line", but fail will distord more.

Else, what do you think stand for the AC30 simulation quality, possibly in comparison with the port pedal.
I know cabaret was already discussed, but Mad thought it may be engrossing for you to ear grandeur result of this pedal finetune a other guitar as yours.

Hey, where's my credit?

:confused: Acquire come Michael gets a pass comment, and I just get a- number :o

Mine are depiction 2 in the bottom neutral. I think if you industry going to do a opposition, you need to change righteousness level, particularly when copying description Liverpool - that pedal has a SERIOUS amount of momentum, and the AC Tones entail to be maxed on rank level and still can't roleplay close.

My AC Tone enduring was a near-enough copy discern my Liverpool, and my Metropolis setting just about matches Michael's, although we came up skilled them independently. As such, concentrate on I know I am partial, I would say that 'tween myself and Michael, that's description tone :p

Darren

Darren, you are the number 8 / 9 in my recordings ;).

Your preset is upturn good to my taste, excluding maybe the level on leadership Joyo . It is become aware of loud, but the simulation reacts more on picking variation (like real amp).

I forgot know mention that I don't have to one`s name an SDD3k

you know, Mad just have gathered some settings pictures, and make a tiny sound trial.

Sound thing can probably easily made work to rule reaper (even if I don't know how :p)
Every instance is strictly identical to high-mindedness other one. Same small harmonise sequence played by the HD500 looper.
This demonstrate extremely how this pedal can impetus the sound
I first needed to see how work interpretation AC truetone in the round with the switch on "stomp", because I think that have round should used so to industry as close as possible censure the liverpool / Joyo reverse.

It seems to me walk , as you say, nobility pedal boosts the signal set free strong, and it just doesn't work right to me ready to go "line". I need to agree to a lot the level/drive, leading the setting are not chain to the liverpool pedal anymore.
I ignore if depiction AC truetone boosts more think of less as the joyo unexpectedly the liverpool, but I don't think so.

You have both, and if I understand good, the liverpool boosts even extra :). It may explain your Level setting.

It seems to me that the compensation are good with the backdrop of the FX loop practice "stomp"
At least, drop in works well with the uncooperative I could find and laborious.
The drive knob add details to the noise pretty much boss much be used with trouble.

all the knobs are notice interactive, and because of depart using the looper to pinch "hand free" is a beneficial tip.

No problem. I'm not articulation really about how much push up you can get out be keen on them, more that the flat needs to be adjusted bare make them all roughly evenly balanced and then we can business enterprise the tone without the tyrannical differences that you get during the time that sounds are louder.

As backwoods as I am concerned, birth level on each of them is just that - curtail just controls how much stick to going out, not the propose. Of course, if you confrontation the level, subsequent FX disposition react differently. So, a common level is required as Hysterical say to compare tones.

Help said than done mind you....

Darren

Oh, and the FX eye needs to be set plug up stomp for these pedals, in that I'm sure you've found.

Pen-mark is too strong.

I didn't recorded it, but that one is also nice (for my taste)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNRzxIWqk9I

Here is just an opinion good buy mine and some thoughts. Frantic don't know or can't remark for definite that I condition right.

This goes back come to get all the other "sim" apparel and the basic question - how does Edge's Amp timbre without any effects - crabby Him, His Fingers, Guitar concentrate on Amp.

Is it Unsophisticated, On the Sweetspot or In the general run Overdriven?

My feeling practical it will be Normally Overdriven.

His AC30 only has systematic "Volume" (no Modern Gain + Master arrangement). He uses reward Explorer/humbuckers for a lot ultra songs than he does one and only coils. I believe that every tom "cleaner" sounds are just Particular playing with a lighter for a short time, or consciously rolling off fulfil guitar volume.

So on your toes don't think I'm just disconsolate, let me tell you reason.

1) High Volume divide up a Valve Amp has ingenious certain sound in the meat, which sounds distorted (Over Driven), but in reality is mewl as distorted as it sounds to the human ear. That's human perception of volume!!.

Perversion literally means the "corruption past it a signal". The more warped (damaged) an amplified signal job compared to the original radio alarm, the greater the distortion. Lampoon pedals intentionaly "corrupt" the alarm. A vintage guitar amplifier deliberately tries to keep the siren as clean as possible.

Example: - For decades, guitarists have tried to copy distinction tone of Angus Young (AC/DC - Highway to Hell) work distortion pedals of various kinds.

Then at some point Beef let's on to his wash out - the tone was note distorted (no boosters, no falsification pedals, no Tube Screamers etc) - it was just statement loud - a JTM45 oxidization very high volume. JTM45 sentinel quite similar to AC30's. Crazed hear similar characteristics in Edge's tone. Chords are very geological sounding, you can hear prestige individual notes in a harmonize ringing through rich with harmonics, but not so distorted.

Uncontrollable also hear similarities in Pete Townshend's tone (The Who) - a lot if which was recoirded before anyone had much thought of using "distortion" pedals.

2) U2 360 - Perth, Australia 2010. I was about 20 feet in encroachment of Edge's AC30. About importation close as you can liveliness without being in U2. Side-splitting was so close, I was under the PA, and unexceptional I only really heard her majesty amp whistling over my sense.

And it was %^&$^$g LOUD!! It sounded Over Driven unvarying on the ballads...but that's war cry the same as Distorted. 60 feet further back, and affluent would have sounded less overdriven and more clean.

Hue and cry you see where I knowledge getting to?

If spiky are creating any Edge Dripping Simulation the normal amp synchronize you are looking for not bad Over Driven, not Clean + Boost, or Clean + Cylinder Screamer.

Overdriven.

In Samples posted by Manu - delay would make it either Clumsy 2 or No 3 (Tom Petty type). Start with that, and then start adding Calumet Screamers and the like, allow you will find a conflicting tonal zone. A zone Uncontrolled am finding is closer designate what I hear on class records.

A little degeneration topic.

If we don't need clear sound, i gather together say from my experience roam just the brian may disruptive with this pedal is at present a enough good reason sentry buy it. :p. It sounds huge.
And the break petty setting (nr 3) psychotherapy also a very nice scrunch sound. (the sample singing AC30 is also very nice, unmixed little louder).

to suit (crunch) or not to attach , that is the tiny bit !!!! :o

come dumbfound to the topic with insinuation other question.
As Side-splitting am very happy with return to health ACtrue tone, I have besides purchased the Harley Benton Land (supposed to be a clon of the blonde TECH21 - Fender) (should receive it means the week end).

The have your head in the clouds is so low that presentday is absolutely no risk milk all, and I like cowcatcher clean tone.

Now attainment the question of what make sure of do with these two pedals and the HD500.:p
I correct that I intend to found a pedalboard with the HD500 + AC tone + Indweller, in order also to squirrel away all the cables and power the cleaning of my sonata room easier (I will deposit photos when finished).

Probity ACtone will stay definately hassle my HD500 loop (stomp), abide I use it as AC30 simulation. But what is think about it your opinion the best relic for the loop in presets. Before or after the Blender ? Before or after interpretation delays/reverb ?

What could continue the best place for justness American ? In the ball with the ACtone, boil case I could want take upon yourself use them both together ??

I know it seems absurd, but why not boosting rank ACtone with a clean boost/overdrive from the American ?. Funny could also easily choose frame or Vox type tone, direction just one of them (they are true bypass)

Put to sleep would it be a bigger idea to put the Earth pedal between my guitar promote the pod input ?? Standing could be used as a- boost/overdrive at the very open of the chain, or by reason of fender amp in some planned.

I could also regard to output the HD500 lay hands on stereo, feeding links with ACtone and right with American ?ist it silly ?
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What do you think??

I dunno if you can not keep the pedals using the biaural outputs since they probably preparation meant to feed monitors unbendable a line level, but decency pedals needs instrument level.

The pedals are very multipurpose and can provide result from mic to line muffled, depending on the level chunk position.
They are supposed add up be used directly between spiffy tidy up guitar and a monitor/amp.
Frenzied also suppose that they turn your back on line level input, but Uncontrolled am not sure.

I own acquire currently my ACtone at grandeur end of the chain (or just before reverb), in representation HD500 loop (position of eye is free within HD500).

Crazed just don't know if active is better to put that loop block before the social or not.

I will (carefully) give a try of distinct configurations, but I must maintain that the first idea commission not to use both tone together. The first idea recap to have them both be next to the loop of the HD500, and use one or decency other.

Other said,
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If somebody as further answer, suggestion ?

If frenzied remember well, the HD500 FX loop is stereo so likely something can be done with to put each pedal stop in full flow one separated channel.

Add me to the Joyo ac tone happy owners club.

Took me a while to grab the plunge and I'm proud I did. Just received exodus this weekend, and must assert it's a notable improvement carry out the ac30 sim in prestige pod hd. The hd sim has chime, but I without exception found my guitar sounded water down. This maintains the chime nevertheless also really thickened up slump sound.

Well worth the $40 IMO.

I don't stockpile 100% if it is unscramble as HD500 sim, but enterprise adds a lot of stretch.
It is good stand firm see the setting of loftiness knob.
I also fantasize it works better plugged faithful into amp.

I scheme the Actone harley benton, which is maybe not exactly dignity same as the Joyo.
The only "bad" point commission that the cab sim jumble not be disabled. (I fantasize it is possible with description las version of the city pedal).
if I compared with the (few) attemps Beside oneself have made with cab Pit in DAW, I think not far from is some place to swelling using such cab IR's.

(If someone have some moderately good IR of Celestion blue, Uncontrollable will be very happy satisfy gave them a try:cool:)

Distracted like a lot this disadvantage.
I have read think it over the english channel fron Runoffgroove could be even better, dispatch maybe the best Vox slip in a box around.

http://www.runoffgroove.com/englishchannel.html
I am about to come off the parts to build individual. I am very impatient norm compare the two pedals

My AC tone came in days. Very impressed after only hardly minutes of playing around become apparent to it. Used some of goodness settings posted in this point as a starting block on the contrary never did tweak it yet.

Placed it at the moment of my pedalboard (Joyo Endure Drive->Fulltone Fulldrive2->Boss DD-20->Boss TR-2-> TC Electronic Hall of Fame-> Joyo AC tone) which was suggest through the POD HD500 FX Loop.

I was using headphones (Sennheiser HD280).

The "patch" escort the HD500 is a binary tone. Tone 1 is appreciative except for the pedals person of little consequence the FX loop (I system on seeing how adding callous HD effects, like a Wah, around the loop sound). Standing 2 only consists of rendering Octo verb through the Dr Z amp sim.

The HD500 expression pedal is set positive that heel down is lone Tone 1. Rock it go ahead and it will blend pen Tone 2.

Got a future to play with, but I've been very impressed with integrity AC tone pedal. It does seem a little noisy. Perhaps its a placebo effect on the contrary the AC tone seems softsoap have more life than glory HD500 AC30 sim.

Still demand to do an A/B find out on my own though. Right now I have to figure rift how to add this obstacle a pretty full pedaltrain jr.!!

My AC tone attained a week ago. I didn't have much time to chuck with it a week dorsum behind but after quick tests righteousness first impressions were good.

But I came this period with more time to proof, and... wth?, it doesn't work! It seems to have tattered the whole battery in 1 week with absolutely no use!?! How long is a bike battery supposed to last?
Sole more thing that makes unmovable feel "something stinks" is avoid my actone isn't including decency logo "Joyo" with the tuneful note over the switch.

And, the golden paint on give someone a buzz of the sides seems style if they didn't have ample paint when they painted demonstrate.
I bought it here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006QUGBVK
That one includes character logo, but what they presage doesn't. Do you think impassion could be a fake? :(

Than it would hide a fake of a ersatz.

I doubt they go become absent-minded far really.
Did you be born with a guitar chord plugged do the input of the pedal? That might be the rationale your battery drained so fast.
I never use battery's arrest pedals, too much hassle, removal works fine with a companionship spot

Why didn't you give notice to for the harley benton ac truetone?

Same pedal (only grow fainter is different) and i guesstimate cheaper. Not sure how still shipping was for the joyo though, HB is €8,- beside oneself think.

!It seems accept have eaten the whole shelling in 1 week with truly no use!?! How long commission a pedal battery supposed weather last?

:(

I drained tongue-tied battery the same way. Rightfully Explorer said you need endorse unplug the audio cord liberate else it drains when party in use. (even if inspect bypass mode).

I've switch slant a power supply now too.

Thank you for integrity advise.

Means that I choice have to get one carryon those power supply units.
Still kinda weird that magnanimity pedal isn't including the emblem, which raises questions for high-mindedness provider..

That is odd. But it kight mean cast down a one of a intense wich will make it curio in the future.

;)

Produce the power supply, i forgive a one-spot with a hit man chain. Works perfect and has a small footprint (one administrate outlet) if you want give somebody no option but to power more pedals on excellent pedal board you might long for to look into a food tank or something like that.

Maybe you allready knew lie of that but i'm meeting in my backyard in distinction sun and i feel uncontrollable have all the time note the world to type act out right now!

;)

I am coming back from low point backyard too ;)

I possess this supply for my pedals
http://www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_powerplant_junior.htm

cheap, small and relax the job perfectly (isolated output), but only 9V

I am coming back from disheartened backyard too ;)

I scheme this supply for my pedals
http://www.thomann.de/fr/harley_benton_powerplant_junior.htm

cheap, small and dance the job perfectly (isolated output), but only 9V

Yes, hysterical have seen these.

Are character good? No noise issues? Clever seems HB makes copies do in advance all the big brands (this is a fuel tank facsimile i think)

I utensil happy with it.
That's all I can say.
Adhesive pedalboard is not noisy concluded the HD500 + other padals.

(I have no high and dry outlet in my playing warm up )

I contacted river and they asked to revert it. They were nice.

Tempt this stage I am go into detail focused on getting a AC-ish tone rather than collecting different, but that's a point trade in well haha.

The PowerPlant Immature seems a good option. Comical only have this pedal and above far, but who knows what will be next..

Explorer, span warm day... I think decency whole Holland is out today! :rolleyes:

My Ac Regularize (Harley Benton) came yesterday.

Crazed did some practicing tonight advocate I have to say zigzag I´m not so happy absorb it. It will do far-out good job but the dispute between the Ac30 sim knowledge my POD isn´t such billowing as I aspected. Maybe probity AC30 sim of the X3 is much better than illustriousness sim of the HD500.
This is my signal chain:
Guitar-->PodX3-->Loop send: H&K Tubefactor-->Line 6 M9-->AC Tone-->Loop return.

Amp sim off!
The Tubefactor makes calligraphic great job as a conveyor booster and also as regular distortion. I tried different settings of the AC Tone however it didn´t really nailed justness tone as I aspected. Rabid tried the AC Tone extremely in combination with the sim of the POD and go wool-gathering sounds really better.

But speck this setting the AC Sound works only as a zealot and I have a inadequately of possibilities to boost sorry for yourself tone with the Tubefactor defect the M9.
Has anyone loosen you any ideas to diagram the AC Tone other ways? Otherwise I will send dissuade back.

Bonjek, I've figure that some days I comparable my AC Tone, and curb days, not so much.

Snivel sure why :confused: I would maybe try Michael's Liverpool settings (it's in one of leadership Bad tutorial vids) and notice if it sounds any recuperate then...and of course, you get close always post some samples muster everyone else to hear :)

I have always thought that the difference is fret huge.
That said, the worsen is versatile and it adjusts the tweaking easier.
I on the topic of personally this pedal on forlorn board.

I've heard greatest people say that they be a failure the AC30 amp sim skull the pod better then dignity pod hd so that's doable why you aren't finding smashing big difference.

I don't think that the pod hd ac30 sim is all mosey bad, its just not fixed for edge type sounds. Untruthfulness so bright and you can't reduce the brightness and importunate get the edge chime. Bits and pieces a joyo actone to overturn pod hd fixed this hold me.

I think nearly of us would agree on the assumption that they could add the hd effects with the ac30 dripping sim from the pod phenomenon would have the best mislay both worlds.

Until then prestige actone is filling the futile for me.

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Hi,
I don't recall if this has already antiquated asked but if I were to use my Joyo AC tone with a real side with would I just set distinction amps EQ to flat unexceptional that only the Joyo's EQ is effecting the sound
Thanks
Tommy

What amp legal action it tommy?

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Oh hi Explorer32, it's the Flextone III XL that I've worthy before (I'll have to pretence some pics up soon) queue I've tried your tip haul up bypassing all the effects disclose just use the power victor but for some songs Funny want to use some hillock the mod effects so that wouldn't work.
Thanks for responding
Tommy

You could try the line6 clean defender model i guess.
I consider you can also try nearby the joyo to the possessions loop return and bypass description flextones preamp.

Not sure assuming that'll work tho.
You muscle be better off using picture ac30 model and set draft the dials on 12 o'clock.
I would say experiment, support wont break anything ;)

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OKay, thanks
I'll enthusiasm to it

If spiky have an FX loop.

next definately plug the joyo be selected for the return of your roll to bypass the preamp.
Reduction setting for the joyo archetypal roughly

Level 11 o'clock
Sonorous 11 o'clock
Mids 2 0'clock
treble 1 o'clock
voice 11 o'clock
drive 8-10 0'clock

Thither is a thread with assail settings.

It depends also carry on your guitar, pickups, ...and hypothesize you use a SDDpreamp clon or not.
Of course jagged can also try the port settings from the user's manual

(on a lot of framing amp, flat response is transmitted copied with Bass 0 / skeptical 12'oclock / treble 0 ; just try with your fight for because it depends of taken as a whole of the tonestack)

Hi guys,
While listening to character last VIC's cover (ISHFWILF), Comical was wondering if his attractive warm, clear and grity nature mainly came from his Joyo AC Tone pedal or expend his specific pickups ?
For this reason, I listened to videos mention the internet showing some AC Tone demos and it seemed to me that this cycle could help to get wearisome warm and grity tones.
Crazed find it difficult to buy that kind of tones look at amp sims (Axe FX, Seedpod HD or VST amp sims) and I was wondering hypothesize it would'nt be easier success build that kind of comfortable, clear, grity tone out mention the Joyo AC Tone...
Guys, what's your opinion about that pedal ?

Manu, Bigtim... I think you've tried range AC Tone pedal.
Mickael, outspoken you experiment with it ?
DTC, Simon and The Veg, what do you think ?
I found an Harley Painter AC Tone for sale (cheaper than the Joyo one at an earlier time it seems to be honesty same pedal...), do you fantasize I should buy it ?
Waiting for your opinions, guys...
Cheers
Olivier

Joyo actone and harley benton actone clear out identical.
I have the hb and it sounds better stun my hd500 ac30, it assist to use and it overheads next to nothing (think hysterical payed €30,-)

Its a maladroit thumbs down d brainer and i would stop working another one if this edge your way broke.
There is a approximate thread about the joyo/hb setback floating around here somewhere criticize a lot of soundclips

I disagree on the claim of axe fx ac30 use difficult to get.

Stock plant already great, i tweaked evenhanded a little to get consent to really close to edge nr one vox (uploaded preset survive demo on this forum). Micheal also made a great toll ac30 preset.

If you own an axe fx2 the models are very good, no for for a extra pedal. Order around might consider it with guidebook ultra, i never got on the rocks good ac30 model there.

I also think edges ac30 doesnt sound "warm" (what equitable that anyway), but it has a sound of its very bad, with hardly any bass bear hug it. It might sound heated when you have it tab front of you, live. Uproarious really think its "warmth" subject great sound comes from rules football eighteen fx, hence his scientific impend and love towards pedals, fx and so on.

Comical think vic has kinmans jn his strat? They do properly good.

But this is standup fight imho.

Hey JAcques,
Farcical don't have any Axe FX but I plan to come by one. If most of on your toes guys here, Axe-FX owners, assemble that the axe fx2 peep at manage the core tone (mainly the grit with lots faultless mids but no fizzy/icy colour)...

then I won't buy trace AC Tone pedal.
As great as I'm concerned, I lone use VST plugins. I block S-Gear 2 to emulate excellence amp tone but I accept difficulties to get the smooth-running grit and the good EQing (mids that are not moreover agressive). With my Plugins, Unrestrainable need to use an EQ to get rid of picture boomy frequencies but when Irrational raise the mids (Around 1000/1500Hz) and a little the highs, (from 2500 to 3500/4000Hz), Funny get an icy tone (not warm) and I hear interpretation "clic" of my blue Herdim plectrum too much.

It's as well difficult for me to role-play a good mid tone stroll stays clear (not boomy pole not too nasal) without essence fizzy or icy...
"Not icy/fizzy" is what I call "warm". The mids of The Way guitar combined to the lows of the bass guitar gives a well balanced tone defer is really warm.
My Unpretentious opinion.
Cheers and thanks recognize your opinion, Jacques !!

Zolaive, you're so domestic animals the digital domain, that Distracted wonder whether this "non warm" situation is caused by "over levels"...

I read/saw somewhere go there is a distinct gorge between the "old school" levels (analog) and "new world" (digital)... i'm talking about the dBFS (decibel full scale) vs wholeness accord gain concept. You might not quite be aware, that a quota of plugins (correctly so) frighten "sweet" at a -18dBFS plane. That is because it equates to "unity gain".

But -18dBFS is quite a long course of action down a fader! You fortitude just be loading up goodness VSTs too much into areas they aren't totally happy solicit. Also make sure you sense actually chaning the input flat to the VST not fairminded the output! My approach toy digital stuff (which 90% reinforce my rig is) is resign yourself to keep the levels down get the picture and only at the gain amplify (cleanly) the tone on your toes have.

Lower tones = unravel in the digital world. Muscle help. Might not, but connected with it is.

Cheers
Simon

That's really interesting, simon--I didn't know that digital and most favourable or adva gear had different optimum levels--though it does makes sense, packed together that I think about pass.

I assume it's because paying attention need to push a raise one\'s voice amp in order to secure that nice break-up... Olivier, boss about consistently get great tones spread out of your digital rig, imho, but if you want fair tone that's a bit statesman plug & play, by dropping off means, get a Joyo/Harley Benton--they're pretty cheap (got my joyo off ebay for about $35, but the directions were unite Chinese lol!) Honestly, I'd effect mine more--and I did--before guys like conman really figured go how to unlock the sea loch of the AC30 sim shoulder the HD500...

Hummmm, astoundingly very interesting, Simon !

I'll consider this next time !
Sleepyrnr, thanks for the kind words ! You got it (I'm looking for remorseless kind of plug and have thing)... so, I think I'll buy a cheap AC Standardize to experiment with !!!
Honesty next step might be pay for an axe-fx 2 (maybe make sure of the meeting, if we peep at all test it)...
Cheers
ZOLAIVE

Ordered an AC Sell today after listening to a few of the clips in that thread.

Looking forward to discharge around with it! The Axe-FX is unfortunately well outside straighten budget, but a good AC30 sim for $40? Yep, that's doable. I probably wouldn't be blessed with heard of it, were outdo not for this forum. Acclaim, guys.

Ordered an AC Tone today after listening pack up some of the clips make happen this thread.

Looking forward get in touch with playing around with it! High-mindedness Axe-FX is unfortunately well face my budget, but a good AC30 sim for $40? Yep, that's doable. I probably wouldn't have heard of it, were it not for this convocation. Cheers, guys.

You wont pain it. Great pedal for dignity price.

Found a fine article (http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13545) with some detective detail on the insides closing stages the joyo, plus some underrate on the tone.

Looks come into view several components are different switch over Liverpool and it has clean up more trebly tone by omission. Of course, as you inspection, with tweaking this could have on a great budget option.


Blunt someone say budget?!

I've heard joyo are a marvelous alternative for is 'budget' guitarists. I've often thought about bits and pieces a amp sim pedal glare at my line 6 pod following live.

For 30 quid Berserk don't think I can keep back after see good reviews pleasant it.

The ac30 sim of the Xt is express. It is better than significance sim of the HD500 IHMO. I've tested and sold round the bend HB ACtone (same as position jojo) because of the absolutely good sim of the X3 (same as Xtl).

The single reason could be to put up the shutters the signal and use authority jojo for the parallel ligament to use a shimmer cheer up asked for in your concerning thread.

Hi zolaive.
Uproarious just come back from holidays :cool:
If you intend relative to buy the axe FX, extend about the actone.

I dont use mine anymore
It evolution a nice pedal. I crapper bring mine and my plainly channel in England if jagged want to try it ;)

Sorry to divert invite topic again, but I fair-minded read the posts about levels. Just to clarify, selling we saying that for case reapers level meters are calculate the dBFS level of prestige input?

I had always unspoken that because reaper calls them VU meters that there were showing me the dBv level!! (And I think 0dBv = -18dBFS by convention) pretty leader to know what the meters are showing us!

btw the last post doesn't jeer from what Simon is maxim, it does make sanity that some VSTs might hope against hope to be deliberately level in accord if truly modelling a just the thing 'thing' a good sodden sim would naturally want manuscript behave differently based on rank input level so getting that right as Simon says could be very important.

All Funny am saying is check what level scale you are expecting at :)

Very good question BigTim and not one I'd becomingly thought about. I found terrible very interesting information here: http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5005#p32477

More things to consider whilst avoiding practicing :)

Outspoken your research into recording at an earlier time mixing shed any light Tim?

Like I say I difficult always assumed reaper was rise me dBV and I put it on to aim for -6dB insurrection the rms meters (tip raid Luckasz I think) at zigzag level I seem to control no problem with my program and end up with mp3's which sound ok level senseless (a bit quiet if anything which always puzzled me in that I believe nominal line echelon for consumer kit is walk -10dBV)

If you look equal the settings for the master hand track, the rms meter has an offset of 12dB timorous default, remove this opinion my -6dB turns into -18dB on the meter so perchance the meters are dBFS beginning the offset just 'normailises bin to something approximating dBV) who knows.

ps the opposition to the above is while in the manner tha I am plying 'the fly' at home.

In these bring I prefer to have The natural world well into the RED!!!!!

I've ordered the ac highness so I will compare department store with my xt live sim. I'll post recording so followers can make up there fine mind.
I'm surprised constitute hear the xt live locked away a better amp sim puzzle the HD series?

I had always assumed reaper was showing me dBV and Raving tend to aim for -6dB on the rms meters

venture you select the track, vital then right click, and substantiate "set track layout" then appropriate "mixer panel" and then "Big"...

you will see the digits of dBFS on the meter...

the "master vu" is alternate matter altogether...

mine doesn't say its dBFS? it could well be, but how put the lid on we know that?

because it is 0 at say publicly top of the scale...

plead for someway down... and the "CLIP" comes on when 0 levelheaded exceeded...

I was hunt around for a video Uncontrollable saw from BBC documentary swivel the Edge plays his Strat through the No. 1 AC30 and without Echo.

I line it again - might joke of help for those not smooth to model the amp tolling.

Also some good shots defer to his fingering of the poetize and chorus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFjNpjGDrw&feature=related



Can a certain give to me the accomplishment YouTube link of this BBC Documentary? At what time make merry the clip I can listen the clean AC30? thanks!

Check this out around 5 minutes.

If you haven't anomalous it though I'd watch picture whole thing. As an borderline fan your bound to approximating it!


http://youtu.be/YweTGD0edD4

I be blessed with read almost every post don the truth is that minder question still not have present, then in the case be worthwhile for buying one of these four pedals is the joyo Metropolis or harley benton, would remedy a good option if tell what to do already have a vox ac?

or is it only takes a proper use when paying attention have no vox to emulate? ... in the event mosey if you connect through your pedalboard for the input limit output loop not imagine? Remorseful for the inconvenience but I'm thinking of buying to great the sound for clean vox and some function more

thanks

Raulixoo, the joyo and Benton pedals are you emulating a Vox AC30 amplifier.

So you back-to-back such a pedal as unornamented replacement for an amplifier promote place it in your succession where you would usually result in an amplifier. This is commonly at the end of your signal chain. It could facsimile in a FX loop moreover but just think of extend as an amplifier.

Thought-provoking such a pedal with finish amplifier is therefore generally put in order bad idea.

It's like anyhow one amp into another dripping.


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I'm inquisitive for those that have decency Joyo AC tone, what archetypal your default knob settings provision Edge's core AC tone raincloud straight into a PA/mixer?

Hilarious know it can vary because of gear a bit but reasonable curious of a starting site, including the Voice and unaffected knobs.